Saturday January 1

New Years Day
 

This morning I didn't get up until 9:45. Didn't do anything after lunch when we came back to the barracks and cleaned it up a bit. Briefing at 2, one crew got a 2 day pass to go to London. Mac, M.D. Fred + I went out to "Hi Jinx" to see if they had started to patch her up. They had fixed oxygen leak + interphone cables that had been cut by a piece of flak. Turkey for dinner tonight to start new year off right. After chow went to show "San Francisco" with M.D. + Fred. This last raid that the fellows went on was pretty bad; but for some reason, I'm not worried a bit about the next, the sooner the better because after 25 we can go home. Lt. McGurer told me this afternoon that we were on the alert for a mission. Since then I've heard rumors to the contrary. If they wake us up at 2:30 AM we'll know. B10
 
 

Rattlesden

Sunday January 2
 

Got up at 7:15 to eat chow and get to the theater for briefing which lately have turned out to be roll calls. I had a class on the camera operation at 11. It lasted 15 min. At least 3 ships in each group have cameras which start taking pictures when the first bomb that is attatched to the camera switch with a string drops out. It continues for 10 minutes to get the results of the raid. It is very successful. After the missions we can see the pictures we take in the crew library. We didn't do much all afternoon except read and play cards. I heard from a good source that on the last mission one of the top turret gunners was hit on the head with a 20 m. shell. This fellow had his crash helmet on. The total results was a dented helmet and a headache. B-8
 
 

Rattlesden January 3

Monday
 

Fred and I jumped out of bed at 8:10, got dressed, walked a half mile to the messhall, ate a breakfast of a sort and got to the theater for roll call at 8:33. A Record? Crews 2 3 + 4 got 2 day passes to places off the base + not to London. The 1st sargeant recieved orders to have the passes made out by 9, but when the fellows showed up he said: "He didn't think it was important." These fellows were mad + didn't get off until 1:30. Maj. Lund was mad at the 1st sargeant who did the same thing with our furloughs in Harvard. He, the 1st sarge, is going to get injured during some blackout but he won't get a purple heart. for bruises. Played cribbage + 500 all afternoon; went to "China Girl" after supper with Fred, came back to barracks to find we are alerted for tomorrow. The weather is clearing up so we'll probably go. B-8:30
 
 
 

Rattlesden January 4

Tuesday
 

Lt. Dalzell woke us up at 3, ate at 3:30, briefing at 4. We gunners were told we were to bomb Kiel. We got out to the ship #207 by 5 AM and had enough time for once to get dressed in electric suit, shoes, gloves, and put the guns in. Take off at 8, leaving English coast at 10, I.P. 11:30 and bombs away at noon. We met no fighters, saw a few FW 190's + ME 109's that stayed way out of range. It was a good thing as the tail guns didn't work and the ball turret's oxygen supply had a severe leak so Harris couldn't stay in it. There was quite a bit of accurate flak. We bombed thro a partial overcast at 24000 ft. It was -52 degrees C outside. A lot of fellows suffered minor frostbite about their necks when they got down. Landed at 1500, ate donuts coffee + sandwiches served by Red Cross at the briefing room; ate supper, cleaned guns and bed about 9:30.
 
 

Rattlesden January 5

Wednesday
 

1944 The C.Q. came in and woke up crew 7, Small, Hess, Zesuit, Boyd, Hill and Bently at 12 midnight for a mission. We didn't get up until 7:30, briefing at 8:30. I went to school most of the morning. Our crew cleaned guns after lunch for an hour or so. All of us were pretty tired from the raid yesterday and have taken naps whenever possible. The men got back from their mission at 4. They bombed a FW assembly plant in Bordeaux, France, meeting some fighters. Small and Zesuit got a FW 190 between them. 2 other 190's were brought down. Zulo's crew got in trouble + headed back for land as they were over water. As Crew #5 we are expecting a 2 day pass soon. Hi Jinx is getting patched up pretty fast, she'll be ready to go when we get to go. B. 9:30
 
 
 

Rattlesden January 6 1944

Thursday
 

Got up at 730 this morning, in the dark. There is no electric power on the field. Roll call at 8:30 as usual in the theater. Another crew got a 2 day pass. They seem to be forgetting crew #5 wants passes too. Went to radio school from 9 to 11:20. Lt. T.W.G. hurt his ankle when he was on a little ferrying job at Honnington yesterday. He went on sick call this morning with a sprained ankle. Lt. Mamlock was out hunting a 1st pilot in case we have to go on a mission tomorrow or in the near future. In the messhalls for breakfast and supper light was provided by candles that were swiped as soon as we were thro eating to light the barracks. The mess officer was yelling + objecting; according to Lt. Dalzell. I guess he wanted his candles. I'm going to bed early because there's nothing to do. "Hi Jinx" should be ready to fly tomorrow afternoon. B-8:30
 
 
 

Rattlesden January 7

Friday
 

Got up at 8:15, the C.Q. was late waking us up. Consequently we took our own darn time eating breakfast; walking into the theater 15 minutes late. A lot of fellows came in after our crew came in so Jarrel couldn't start the role call until about 9 oclock. I was told to be at the equipment room at 11:30 to fly as radio op on Lagasse's crew on a practice mission to check the lead ships as they do every day. We got back down just before the fellows returning from their mission. No planes were lost, fighter protection all the way in and out. They bombed some city in the interior of Germany. After chow Harris Mac and I went to the show, after which a G.I. magician gave a pretty good show. Came back to the barracks to find out I take a mission tomorrow with some other crew. Today is the first time I've ever flown with another crew. B 9:30
 

To the Glossary!
 
 

Rattlesden January 8

Sat.
 

1944 The C.Q. came in at 5:45 to wake us up for the inspection by the colonel at 9. We got things real clean as only crew #5 is in this Barracks now, Small and crew 7 are in London now. It turned out that the leutenant making the inspection commended the barracks on our cleanliness or something. I went to code class an hour this morning, spent the afternoon playing poker. Time seems to go very slow during periods of inactivity. Lately we've been playing cribbage, rummy, 500, and poker to pass the time away. Went to the show "Behind the Rising Sun" with Dill, came back + played some more poker until 10. We are not alerted for a raid and will get to sleep until 7:30 tomorrow. Hi Jinx is ready to go now. I didn't make that mission that was scheduled for today because of the bad weather. B11
 
 

Rattlesden January 9

Sunday
 

Got up at 8:30 this morning, dressed and got Fred out of bed and managed to get down to the theater on time with him. No ground school today. Everybody except Mac TWG + Laz went to Protestant church this morning at 9:30, the rest went at 11. Since we've been going on missions there's a lot of fellows going to church, and the greatest percentage are combat crew members too. Cleaned guns and worked on the interphone system of ship most of the afternoon. Played rummy with Fred and MD for an hour after supper. Read a while and hit the hay as soon as the fellows get thro playing blackjack on my bed. B-830

We are supposed to go on a 2 day pass Tuesday.
 
 

R. January 10

Mon.
 

I got up this morning at a quarter to seven, dragged Fred out of his sack; got down to the chow hall at seven and to the barber shop at 7:30. The shop didn't open til 8 but we got in at the first of the line. I got my hair cut and went over to briefing at the theater to tell Jarrel where Fred was. It was O.K. by him. We had a class in aircraft rec in the theater at 10 when we were told that we'd fly in the aft-noon. We had to put the guns in for the flight. We were up in the air for an hour during which time I was listening to a British radio program which featured songs like "Deep in the Heart of Texas". Pretty good. All of us did a good job cleaning our guns for the mission tomorrow. Dill came in at 9 saying that we'd go on pass tomorrow instead of going on the mission. The whole crew would rather go than let someone else let Hi Jinx get all shot up. We'd be willing to forfeit the pass. B10
 
 

Rattlesden January 11

Tuesday
 

1944 We got up at 7 oclock this morning, had roll call in the officers barracks at 8:30. Afterwards all of us went back to the barracks to get ready to go to town. I walked down to operations and got the passes. Crew #5 left at noon by G.I. truck from the messhall. We didn't have to show our passes. We got to Stowmarket at 1230, caught a train for Ipswitch after waiting 15 minutes. It took 20 minutes to go to Ipswitch about 17 miles. As soon as we hit town we got beds in A.R.C. got supper there and went to a show. Mac went to a dance instead, getting to bed at 11. The trolleys in this town are as modern as anywhere, good service too. Most of the people seem pretty friendly, contrary to what most of the fellows say. The first impression of the town gives us a good impression of things. Gene + Dill went to London to spend their passes.
 
 
 

R. January 12

Wednesday
 

1944 At 8 the four of us got up and had breakfast at the A.R.C. Service Club. It wasn't a bad breakfast, stretched sausages, potatoes, bread toast butter and jam. Afterwards we went out and bought sueveniers, pilots caps and squandered money in general. I spent about \10 for a necklace, brooch and purse, but they are all well made, and very pretty. I think I'll send the brooch to Mom, purse to Lois and necklace to Alice. I guess the jewelry is pretty expensive for the Britishers but the Yanks spend their pounds like water. After lunch the four of us started walking to see the town. We went thro a park with a big pond filled with Mallard ducks + geese. Really beautiful. On the grounds was a mansion that was an art gallery and very old domestic furniture dating back to 13th century. We found another museum and went thro it in a half hour when 2 days wouldn't have been enough time. Natural history, zoology and gun collections filled most of it. A show finished up a swell day. B 11
 
 

R. January 13

Thurs.
 

1944 M.D. and I got up at 7, took a shower and shaved, Fred and Mac got up at 8:45. Soon afterward we went to the A.R.C. Service Club to get breakfast. M.D. and I went off shopping while waiting for the two to finish their coffee; stopping at a jewelry store.-Met them at the train station, leaving at 1015, getting to Stowmarket at 1045 where we met the rest of the crew, including the officers back from London. After waiting a while we got a ride to the base in the mail truck. A class from 330-530, P.W. + naval ident. Charlie Harris had to ditch on the last mission when Col. Bowman + Jarrel's plane blew up. Harris and crew had a rough time: the ship broke up, sank in 30 sec. but the whole crew got into boats OK. The R.O. got an S.O.S. off, 15 min. after landing a Hudson circled, 3 hrs later they were picked up by the Limey coast patrol. All of the fellows suffered from exposure and shock. C. Harris says he's going to quit flying. B 10
 
 

R. January 14

Friday
 

8:20- Fred and I got to briefing just in time. Capt. Richards is squadron operations officer now, Dalzell + La Gasse assistants. They had a good ground school schedule mapped out for us when they alerted us for a mission. T.W.G. said we could clean guns until briefing at 11 when we gunners went to their ships, as too much information as to target for the day has been leaking out before the planes take off so they told just the officers the target + particulars. The officers got out when everything was ready + told us that we were an extra crew. The formation take off was at 1-2:15, we stood by in the ship until 2:30 then came back + got something to eat. It was a milk run, and for the first time we would have been in our own ship. They got back at 5:30, no flak or fighters. All combat crews are alerted tomorrow for a maximum effort, restricted to barracks. I owe 6 letters + am going to bed instead of writing. Charlie Harris is going to get a 7 day pass for rest. He deserves it. B9:00
 
 

R. January 15

Sat.
 

The C.Q. came in at 3:30 to wake us up for a mission this morning, ate at 3:45, briefing at 4:45. After the gunners briefing I was in with the rest of the R.O.'s getting briefed by Capt. Unitas when he recieved a call from Berry that the mission had been scrubbed. We got back in bed by 6, slept until 930 when we got up to get paid flight pay, \14 5' 6d. We had to go up to briefing room at 11 for a brief lecture by a maj. of some other sq. An electronic supercharger lecture 2.30-3.30, and poker took up all afternoon and evening. 6 pence loser, about the cheapest entertainment possible around here. It was just a friendly game among the 6 E.M. of the crew. At 7 Lt. Dalzell came in to get his radio + told us we probably would not go on a mission tomorrow because bad weather was expected. A bit of fog came up very suddenly this morning + hung on till noon. 3 more missions we get the air medal. 2 day pass the 21th. B-10
 
 

R. January 16

Sun.
 

7:15, Briefing at 8:30 in the theater. This was over at 8:45, Gene Dill, M.D. + I went to combat library until 925 when we went to church. At 10:30 after church I went up to take code in room 13, but the code instructor was skipping out. I shot the bull with a limey flight leutenant and Al until noontime. After chow there was a short lecture at 1:30-200 by S-2, then I went + took code for an hour and passed 20 W.P.M. again, the first time being at Scott field last May. Some fellows flying B-26's land here from a mission 2 days ago + have been fogged in ever since. Those boys say that the grub is a hundred times better here than at their base. They don't mind their staying here at all. After chow M.D., Fred + I went to the show "Wake Island", played 2 cribbage games + hit the hay. The fellows are galloping the dominoes against the floor. B10
 
 

To the Glossary!
 
 

R. January 17Monday
 

7:00 I got up good and early this morning. Some reason, Fred got up too! It was nice to sit in the mess hall for 45 minutes. Went to radio school most of the morning, code + a lecture, plus bull sessions. There was another class on zone sighting the 1st thing in the afternoon. The rest of the afternoon we read in the library + read in the barracks. Didn't do anything except read after supper. Today was another day of fog. The weather hasn't been very cold but pretty damp. No mail has come in for 4 days. We are getting pretty impatient because of the lack of mail. The B-26 boys have to go thro 50 missions, but 25 in B-17's are a lot harder. The 26's can make 2 missions a day, while one every other day is the most we can make except in emergencies. They have had anti personell bombs on the base for a month. Sort of expect the invasion to break loose in two months. B-10
 
 

R. January 18

Tuesday
 

7:15 Got up in time to eat, make some cocoa + heat it on a stove + take all the time in the world to drink it. Roll call at 8:30, no ground school during the morning, a class 1:30 to 2:30, I took blinker then for an hour and went back to the barracks until chow time. At 5:30 in the officers mess Col. Harris presented the D.F.C.'s and Purple Hearts earned in the past raids. The D.F.C.'s were presented to fellows that have finished thier 25 missions were of another group. Most of the Purple Hearts were earned in the Kiel raid by frostbite. The 26's + their crew are still here. Lt. Dalzell came in a while ago, telling us that we're on alert, we'll probably fly the purple heart earner tomorrow with Lt. Bye, Dalzell's copilot. He says we might not have briefing very early but I'm going to bed early anyway. B-9:30
 
 

R. January 19

Wednesday
 

The C.Q. came in waking us up at 6:30 for a mission. All of crew 5 except Fred went to chow at 6:45 and stayed at the messhall until 8 when all but me went to the main briefing room. I went back to the barracks to get a scarf + to wake Fred up. He was dressing as I came in; got to breakfast at 8:35 + sat around till 9 briefing time. We were to bomb rocket installations on the coast of France. When we got out to the ship + got the guns in T.W.G. came out + told us the mission was scratched. We went to the barracks until 2 when we had to take the ship out + dump the bombs in the North Sea. We had delayed action bombs that can't be defused without going off, so we dumped them, the six regular bombs went off + made beautiful gysiers. Then T.W.G. took us down on the deck, 30 ft. + test fired the guns, 300r. per gun. Came back, ate, cleaned the guns, got thro at 830, came back to the barracks + went to bed. 9:00
 
 

R. January 20

Thursday
 

The C.Q. came in at 6:30 to tell us we were going on a mission. We slept until 7:30 when he came in again to get us up. Chow at 745, nothing to do until 9 when the gunners were briefed. Same lecture and target as yesterday. Same as yesterday we got the guns in and everything ready and mission was scrubbed. After chow all the E.M's went out to the ship, got it cleaned up, loaded a lot of ammo; T.W.G. turned us in as present at the afternoon classes in ground school. After dinner I went to the show alone, came back; went to the latrine and shaved + got cleaned up in general in cold water. I felt pretty good AFTERWARDS. This scrubbing of missions is getting tiresome, for us, ground crew + everybody. But, most of the time we get our chocolate bar and gum every time to soothe us. So far none of the fellows I've noticed haven't been bothered by combat as they've seen so far. Got a "V" mail letter today from Mom mailed the 9th of Jan. So far they've recieved none of my letters. B-1030
 
 

R. January 21

Friday
 

We got up at 7:30, briefing at 9, when they told us we were going on a mission at noon. After the usual preparations we made a nobal raid, bombing the rocket installations on the coast of France. T.O. at 12, landing at 4:15. No flak, no fighters, we missed the target by 500 ft, hit a railroad instead, bombing at 12,000 ft. The Jerries were shooting up some sort of rockets at us; they got up to our altitude + exploded, off to one side about a mile. We saw about six of them, none coming close at all + we are not sure what they are. After landing we got away from the ship in 15 min. the record just about, got thro undressing, packing interrogation by 5:30, ate chow, went to the barracks to get mail. Mom and Alice seem not to have got any mail from me yet, the address is stil APO 9006, Tad has it tho. Tonight the Jerries are keeping the searchlights busy, we can see light from exploding bombs in distant towns but cannot hear it. The Jerries must be mad. B- 10:30
 
 

R. January 22

Sat.
 

We got up at 8, had breakfast and went to briefing at 9. The rest of our baggage came this morning. After roll call T.W.G. and the rest of the crew with Sgt. Honeycutt the supply sgt opened the big box with our stuff. I was glad to get the protective clothing, shoes, brand new pair from Kearney, and my new field jacket. Last night a lot of Ju 88's bombed London for the first time in a long while. 8 out of 30 were shot down. This afternoon we had a lecture on the British rescue boat. It is hooked on the belly of a Lockheed Hudson or some other plane + is dropped by parachute to a dinghy with a ditched crew. It has outboard motors, sail, warm clothing, emergency radio, rockets and food. It is 24 ft long, is self righting mahogany boat with CO2 filled bags at each end. A complete unit complete with instructions, gasoline and good wishes.

B-11 No briefing tomorrow morning.
 
 

R. January 23

Sun.
 

I got out of bed at 10:30 this morning, read until 11, got cleaned up and went to chow. Just after noon we were ordered to go to briefing room as soon as possible for a mission. It turned out to be a practice mission, we didn't have to go because Lt. Mamlock was still D.N.I.F. No classes during the afternoon; spent the time in the Red Cross Rec drinking tea and eating sandwiches; sewing 8th air corp patches on my clothes. They had chicken for supper tonight; a swell meal. Crew 7 got back from London today; they say most of those Picadilli Commandoes are thicker than flies + are pretty eager to earn money. They had a swell time tho. We get our passes in four days, M.D.,Fred + I plan to go Ipswitch. We are not supposed to fly a mission tomorrow except as individual replacements. Briefing at 9. B-10:15
 
 

R. January 24

Mon.
 

Much to Crew #5's surprise, the C.Q. came in at 3:30 waking us up for a mission. Briefing at 4:15 when they told us we were going to Frankfort to bomb chemical works and railway yards and explosive factories. We took off at 6:25 to fly high echlon for the 94th group. At takeoff we had trouble with interphone; used emergency interphone on the command modulating unit for an hour then switched back to interphone. Mac's interphone jack box was shorted out. Our composit group reached the rendevous at 10 over the Channel; the 94's formation was very poor. The trip was cancelled as we were 40 miles in France. On the way back out ran thro some accurate flak, 2 small holes in ship. Got back to base at 12:30, after interragation + putting up equipment went back to bed at 2 P.M. sleeping until 6 when Fred + I went to A.R.C. to get tea + sandwiches, went to clean our guns and came back to go to bed at 10:30
 
 

R. January 25

Tues.
 

Got up at 7:30, ate chow and went to role call at 9 when we were told the P. C.P N. + R.O. of Crew #5 were to take a ferrying trip to Honnington at 10:30. We took ship 146, took off at 1050, me in the tail. It was a great thrill during the take off back there. We landed at Honnington 10 minutes later on the prefabricated steel runway. After checking in Leavitt + I went to chow, a poor one at that and got back to operations at 12:45; Stenvig + T.W.G. + officers showed up at 1. We took off in 095 15 minutes after Stenvig got off. On the way back I rode in the nose. After landing spent some time in the barracks, Mac, Fred + I had tea in the A.R.C. until 5:30, then I went to the show. Afterwards back at the barracks they say there is an all out alert for tomorrow. Maybe we'll go even tho we made the last mission. B-10:30
 
 

To the Glossary!
 
 

R. January 26

Wednesday
 

Again, much to our disgust, the C.Q. came in at 2:30, pulling us out of bed for a mission. Briefing at 3:45 where we're told our target was Frankfurt again, with a Nobal target as a secondary mission. Takeoff time was to be 7:50, start engines at 7:25. At this time they told us both missions were scrubbed, due to 7/10's cloud over the Continent. There was another briefing at 9, so we had another breakfast + went back. Practice mission, skeleton crews + we got hooked. Flew from 10 till 2, me riding all over the ship. Came down, ate a late lunch, and finished reading a book by supper time. Dashed off a letter instead of going to chow, and am going to bed early. Lt. Mamlock says the 447th has the best bombing record of all time here in England for Yanks, 708 being high squadron. If we have good record for the next two raids we'll be in for a presidential citation. B 8:00
 
 

R. January 27

Thursday
 

We got up at 7, and when the rest of the crew went to breakfast I went over to the washroom to shave + wash up. At 12:10 we got in a truck + headed for Stowmarket, getting there at 1. Just for a change we took a bus to Ipswitch at 1:30, getting there in an hour. It was one of these tall double decker buses, we rode in the top, getting a good look of the countryside as we passed thru the two towns on the way to Ipswich. During the afternoon we walked around town got a room at the A.R.C. dormitory. Harris + I went to a show, the rest except Kealer went to a bar to get some drinks. Kealer stayed on the base in hope of getting a mission during our two day pass to catch up with us. The five of us hit the hay at 11, in clean sheets. It sure felt good.
 
 

Ipswich January 28

Friday
 

Got up at 7 this morning. Harris + I took a shower before going out. By the time we were ready, the rest were ready too. After looking around a bit we went into a radio shop and asked if they had a radio. The owner swore up + down he didn't have any, then casually mentioned he'd sell us one for \20. We bought it before he could talk much. That would be \3 1/3 for each man of our crew. After buying it we took it up to the A.R.C. dormitory to have them keep it for us. For the rest of the morning we went thro the museum on High street that we just skipped thro on our last past. Fred + I went out to a golf course to spend the rest of the afternoon while the rest shopped. I had a swell time walking around and maybe learned a little about golf. In the evening the five of us went to a show. B-12:45 at the A.R.C.
 
 

Ipswich
+
Rattlesden January 29
 

Harris + I got up at 7:45, went down to the middle town to do a bit of final shopping: buying some wine, a pillow. We got to talking to a civilian who said the Forts had been going up all morning from 630. We got the radio and got down to the station at 9:15. Mac + the rest showed up at 10, the train left at 10:15 with us standing up. The officers of the crew were on the same train. After a 15 minute run we got to Stowmarket, went to our tea room + had tea + cakes. This time it was on Mamlock. We got rides out to camp at different times. I came out with H.E.M. + McGurer. The radio works very well. Jimmy Boyd went on the raid + says it was to Frankfurt, a milk run, some flak good fighter protection. Bombed thro clouds at 24 thous. saw smoke come thro clouds that were at 10,000. B-9. No alert as yet.
 

R. Bombed the city at 24000 thro clouds; with incindaries.
Returned at 430

January 30

Sunday

We were a disgusted bunch of guys at 2:30 when they woke us up for a mission. T.O. was 820, headed for Brunswick Germany. Chemical, gas, and airplane city. We flew over at 24,000 ft, sometimes as high as 27,000. Looking back I could see group after group, wing after wing behind us in waves above the clouds, P-38's zigzagging back + forth above us. Those 38's looked pretty, so pretty in fact a few FW 190's came above the clouds, saw them and changed their minds and headed home. We always had at least 30 P38's in sight, a few P47's. It wasn't cold, I didn't turn heat on until after we left the target + went up to 27,000. Throwing chaff out kept me pretty busy. Quite a bit of flak, 2 holes in our ship, Putnam turned back at the I.P.; on the way back we were the lead ship for the group as Dalzell dropped behind to no 6 position with a feathered no 2 engine. Got back at 4. Went to bed at 7:30 dead tired.
 
 
 

R. Putnam's crew is gone. He must have bailed out over Germany. Probably P.W. + OK January 31

Mon
 

M.D. + I got up at 2:15 to go on a mission I was to go as RO for Donahue. At briefing at 4:15 we found that we were headed for Frankfurt, Ger. a pathfinder mission. I was to fly in a late B-17 G with all the radio equipment in the r. room, radio gun mounted on the hatch, waist guns mounted so that the waist guns + r. gun could be fired without opening any windows. It would have been nice + warm. After pulling the props thru the mission was scrubbed because the weather was too bad. Came back to barracks + stayed in bed from 8 till lunch time, got my rations and slept from 2-5. If we had of taken off we would have been loaded. 2700 gals, Tokyo's clear full, + 10x500 demo's; the ships would have been 200 lbs under maximum gross weight allowable for takeoff: 63000 lbs. A B-17 G can't get off the ground with more than 65000. The 63000 didn't count extra flying equip. we took along. Cleaned guns after chow. Alert for tomorrow. B-8:30
 
 

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